tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post8821479625098515692..comments2024-03-28T23:59:18.362-07:00Comments on B/X BLACKRAZOR: Three Pillars – IntroductionJBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03263662621289630246noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-85124891943998799622012-02-08T21:38:19.012-08:002012-02-08T21:38:19.012-08:00@ The Good Scott:
Just stay with me a couple post...@ The Good Scott:<br /><br />Just stay with me a couple posts more, man!<br />: )<br /><br />@ Drance:<br /><br />I appreciate the kind words...though I AM a bit of a pedagogue.<br />; )JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08532311924539491087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-21784252742993289672012-02-08T11:00:02.874-08:002012-02-08T11:00:02.874-08:00JB, just want to thank you for your in-depth analy...JB, just want to thank you for your in-depth analysis of D&D and our hobby in general. Seriously, I'm not just blowing smoke. I'm grateful for someone who knows their stuff and puts it forth for our consideration without resorting to being a nasty pedagogue like some others. Thanks!Anthony Simeonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04312134763577949405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-79345609430711805602012-02-08T07:43:58.221-08:002012-02-08T07:43:58.221-08:00First, is there such a thing as a pillar of D&...First, is there such a thing as a pillar of D&D game play? It seems like some BS that the corporate shills in marketing made up to garner interest in support of future sales. Combat, Exploration, and Role-Playing are just character actions. They are part of game play, but not the foundation of something inherently D&D. <br /><br />JB, your pillars seem to be conflict and conflict resolution. To me, that is just the plot. This is no better (an certainly no worse) than the drivel that comes out of WotC and only an element of what makes D&D. <br /><br />If there is a foundation, isn't it something deeper? Doesn't it start with the willing suspension of disbelief in a fantasy world of magic and monsters or in the dramatic conventions we establish for our fantasy worlds?The Good Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13497242879713683417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-12110471824266581432012-02-08T06:14:47.636-08:002012-02-08T06:14:47.636-08:00@ Wyrin:
Yes, there are many (RPG) games that are ...@ Wyrin:<br />Yes, there are many (RPG) games that are not built on these pillars. I'm getting to that, I promise!<br />; )<br /><br />@ Antonio: <br />Um, I don't know what "orthogonal" means. I'm going to have to look it up later.<br /><br />@ Nicco:<br />Dude, I'm not beating up on those guys "'cause I can." Prior to this I think I had ONE post that mentioned Mearls (yeah, just checked) and probably zero regarding Monte. While I may not be very impressed by their bodies of work, I had no particular axe to grind, until I heard their "three pillar" nonsense.JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08532311924539491087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-87894022079976682402012-02-08T03:06:19.612-08:002012-02-08T03:06:19.612-08:00It seems to me that people want to beat up on Mont...It seems to me that people want to beat up on Monte and company just because they can. I think Combat, Exploration, and Role Playing are a perfectly legitimate lens through which to look at D&D.<br /><br />I might rephrase it a little bit... conflict, exploration, and social interaction (the pc's, NOT the player's!). Combat becomes a subset of conflict. Conflict could be a part of social interaction, but need not be.<br />Conflict could also be part of exploration (finding/avoiding traps) but need not be.<br /><br />Your "challenge, reward, escape" would then fall under the domain of conflict.Niccodaemushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12969643475763823901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-37719133994540110162012-02-08T02:16:19.932-08:002012-02-08T02:16:19.932-08:00Yes, you're looking at it from a completely di...Yes, you're looking at it from a completely different angle to them, not necessarily, they're wrong and you're right.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10678503778316350427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-90886476937886277042012-02-08T00:50:01.356-08:002012-02-08T00:50:01.356-08:00It seems to me the categories you offer are somewh...It seems to me the categories you offer are somewhat orthogonal to the ones devised by WotC designers. Or, put it another way, they offer a view of pillars from a different point of view. <br />You can have Challenge both in Combat, Exploration and Role-playing, for example.Antoniohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17258180992723371727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-13313360266223915272012-02-07T23:32:09.365-08:002012-02-07T23:32:09.365-08:00are there games that dont offer your 3 pillars?
t...are there games that dont offer your 3 pillars?<br /><br />to me youve given three generic/esoteric pillars, WotC have list more contextual pillarsWyrinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584859518433388278noreply@blogger.com