tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post4413346341928101948..comments2024-03-28T00:41:13.514-07:00Comments on B/X BLACKRAZOR: Happy Valentine's Day Star Frontiers!JBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03263662621289630246noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-31366135484405646972018-09-26T11:03:08.480-07:002018-09-26T11:03:08.480-07:00Still not a review. Just some notes of some of the...Still not a review. Just some notes of some of the things I like about SF, and some that I don't, and how I think the game is best used (as it's own thing rather than as an emulation of other sci fi properties).JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263662621289630246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-10226162348992670562018-09-23T11:32:08.011-07:002018-09-23T11:32:08.011-07:00Hilarious given that you dig D&D, which is als...Hilarious given that you dig D&D, which is also only good st emulating a very strange and specific variation on sword & sorcery. Your bias is showing. Your review is also self-contradictory as other have noted. You seem confused.Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-48016595680499750422010-02-23T22:25:50.820-08:002010-02-23T22:25:50.820-08:00@D30: Hey, I can get behind a game that assumes a ...@D30: Hey, I can get behind a game that assumes a certain degree of armor, provided it's a setting I can get behind.<br /><br />But a game that assumes a certain type/amount of gear or equipage means it may not be the right game for all folks all the time...it ain't no universal sci-fi game, I'm afraid.JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08532311924539491087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-61484966788116604102010-02-23T13:02:57.849-08:002010-02-23T13:02:57.849-08:00Would your example have been any different if Achi...Would your example have been any different if Achilles and Squeemish each had appropriate armor? Sometimes a combat system assumes armor, and things get too deadly without it. I know Shadowrun is totally like that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-23392526392234277342010-02-16T09:48:35.971-08:002010-02-16T09:48:35.971-08:00Star Frontiers is really about the sci-fi lit of t...<i>Star Frontiers</i> is really about the sci-fi lit of the 50's and 60's and the pulp TV and radio shows like Buck Rogers. If you want to play an H. Beam Piper novel or one of the Heinlein juveniles, SF is great.<br /><br />But yeah, it's not a toolkit. There are a few nods towards Traveller and a kinda-sorta halfway glance towards Star Wars, but that's it. If your interest is anything other than a setting in which Piper's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Space-Viking-Henry-Beam-Piper/dp/0554369389/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266342186&sr=8-4" rel="nofollow">Space Viking</a> can do battle with Heinlein's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Galaxy-Robert-Heinlein/dp/1416505520/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266342303&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">Citizen of the Galaxy</a>, you probably want to look elsewhere.<br /><br />I haven't played it yet, but I just posted a review of Troll Lord Games' <a href="http://trollsmyth.blogspot.com/2010/02/review-of-starsiege-event-horizon.html" rel="nofollow">Starsiege</a>. The short version is, it's got some organizational issues and badly needed in editor, but it is very much a flexible toolkit with a number of neat little systems that make it worth checking out.trollsmythhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895349218958093151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-9543495795584626602010-02-16T05:54:30.819-08:002010-02-16T05:54:30.819-08:00star frontiers does a fairly good job with spacesh...star frontiers does a fairly good job with spaceships in the knigthawks set except: pcs have to be fairly experienced to become space cadets. <br /><br />as a wargame KW does fast and fun battles with a fairly large number of vessels at a time but can still do an okay minor engagement.JDJarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691101939920824546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-60629844288376356112010-02-16T03:35:22.678-08:002010-02-16T03:35:22.678-08:00@Jay
Never played Knight Hawks, so I can't com...@Jay<br />Never played Knight Hawks, so I can't comment on how it complements SF with starship rules. Other than Star Frontiers, my sci-fi gaming has been limited to Star Wars (WEG and d20), Trinity, and Gamma World, so I can't really help.Dennis Laffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03053699552003336733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-9510972474939567062010-02-15T23:27:20.112-08:002010-02-15T23:27:20.112-08:00@Gwydion (or anyone, really) you said that SF does...@Gwydion (or anyone, really) you said that SF does pulpy sci-fi action well. Is there a game you'd recommend that does pulp AND has the fun spaceships, etc.? In other words, what's the improvment? X-plorers?Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07997164906328234122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-30485473388251097022010-02-15T23:18:19.340-08:002010-02-15T23:18:19.340-08:00I'm in the middle of trying to decide whether ...I'm in the <a href="http://exonauts.blogspot.com/2010/02/struggles-with-choosing-system.html" rel="nofollow">middle of trying to decide</a> whether to use Star Frontiers or another RPG to run a sci-fi game. I think there's some excellent insight here for me to consider!Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07997164906328234122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-85179886506141441962010-02-15T21:33:15.461-08:002010-02-15T21:33:15.461-08:00"I wanted a science fiction RPG that could be..."I wanted a science fiction RPG that could be used to run MY ideal game...and Star Frontiers is best used to run a Star Frontiers game."<br /><br />I was thinking about your gaming Axioms compared to SF, and I think this is key. It really fits well in what it was designed to do--pulpy sci-fi action, battling space pirates and sathar, and exploring strange planets. Other than that, it's not that great. But it does the above really well, and rewards you for doing those things.Dennis Laffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03053699552003336733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-65259254998299144082010-02-15T19:19:22.175-08:002010-02-15T19:19:22.175-08:00Before the big-bad-evil corporations over ran the ...Before the big-bad-evil corporations over ran the setting Star Frontiers was a optimistic Sci-fi universe even with a race of aggressive militant worm people attacking mankind and allies.<br /><br />Ages ago my grandfather enjoyed playing Star Frontiers more then D&D. It (SF) was a place that wasn't' too far removed from Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers and other sci-fi serials of his youth.JDJarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07691101939920824546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-60288980095184578942010-02-15T18:17:48.307-08:002010-02-15T18:17:48.307-08:00I couldn't agree with you more. Star Frontiers...I couldn't agree with you more. Star Frontiers was on a class of its own. It wasn't Traveller or Warhammer 40k but we treated it as a sui generis game and ran with it back in the day. We had fun times too!spielmeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09247265293145424283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-46934482931119758872010-02-15T17:59:43.096-08:002010-02-15T17:59:43.096-08:00Hmmmm, two things about your example bother me.
1...Hmmmm, two things about your example bother me.<br /><br />1) High tech weapon vs primitive spear. High tech weapon wins. Sorry, I'm not outraged by the "sillyness" of that. Game is saying tech matters more than skill. The ol adage "don't bring a spear to a laser pistol fight" comes to mind.<br /><br />2) Squeemy vs Squeezy doing 55-110pts of damage, one of them is gonna die. In fact one shot at full power is gonna kill any "average" char of 45 (I'm assuming death happens when you got no more staminia). Basically at one point you say it's too deadly it kills my savage and next paragraph you're saying it's not deadly enough.<br /><br />I might even agree with your combat complaints but your argument leaves me perplexed. The rest of your post rings true. Star Frontiers is silly, like Sat. Morning cartoon silly.Norman J. Harman Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01319655075997712313noreply@blogger.com