tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post3600492167128509534..comments2024-03-28T00:41:13.514-07:00Comments on B/X BLACKRAZOR: Luke Couldn't Shoot Straight to Save His Ass...JBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03263662621289630246noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-21356752137995121842010-03-01T18:44:30.167-08:002010-03-01T18:44:30.167-08:00Hey folks! Just had a (minor) epiphany. Maybe I/WE...Hey folks! Just had a (minor) epiphany. Maybe I/WE are being too harsh on the whole issue. See my post today!<br />: )JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08532311924539491087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-533919081683003412010-03-01T17:43:20.308-08:002010-03-01T17:43:20.308-08:00I won't flog the dead horse--obviously I agree...I won't flog the dead horse--obviously I agree with the tenor of the post and will always feel that there is a "real" history that wasn't portrayed in the prequel films. But, I was suddenly struck with the parallel with Lord of the Rings---Tolkien frequently suggested that a strength of his work was that it <i>suggested</i> the history behind it it, without actually going into detail. So, I expect that all of us of that generation came up with our own, cool ideas of the Old Days and would have been disappointed by any version Lucas made.<br /><br />Of course, he could still have made a less sucky version. ;)<br /><br />Just frex, I always picked up on the religion comments in <i>Star Wars</i> (and you know what film was actually called that) and wondered about that. I made the Templar connection too. Much later, I was in the Aleksander Nevsky Church in Sophia, Bulgaria and thought: "Hey! This might be the Jedi Temple!"Matthew Slepinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04056247825064943944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-80512647696376755892010-02-28T13:03:56.737-08:002010-02-28T13:03:56.737-08:00I agree with Christopher B.
STAR WARS (iv:a new ...I agree with Christopher B. <br /><br />STAR WARS (iv:a new hope)-is my new canon.<br /><br />There is a book DEATH TROOPER set 5 years before SW where Han and Chewie fight space zombies created by the Empire as a weapon.<br />Sheeesh...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-56333281864121739472010-02-27T15:44:20.355-08:002010-02-27T15:44:20.355-08:00Wholeheartedly agree, JB. But I'll take it a s...Wholeheartedly agree, JB. But I'll take it a step or two further: In my mind, the Force as displayed in the first movie is far more interesting than what came after (and, erm, before-ish). The notion of a mystical energy that is both subtle and mysterious was - to me at least - more interesting and intriguing than something that let people jump around like superheroes, move objects telekinetically, read/dominate minds, project energy, etc. The Force as it appeared in "Episode IV" will always be the way I choose to view it.<br /><br />In fact, the history of Vader & Anakin - two <i>different</i> people - and the galaxy in which they lived will be the way that movie represented it. To me, even the sequels added to the gradual demystification of the Star Wars universe. Thanks, but I'll stick to the universe as it appeared in the first film and the related media that immediately followed it: Splinter of the Mind's Eye, the Brian Daley Han Solo novels, and the Marvel comics that came between Ep's. IV and V. Call me an insane purist or whatever, but these kept the mystery of that universe alive... IMHO & YMMV.Christopher Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17368794259249607299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-8069088965324497052010-02-27T10:45:35.305-08:002010-02-27T10:45:35.305-08:00As far as era of play, I was taken with the Star W...As far as era of play, I was taken with the Star Wars setting ripoff used in Galactos Barrier. IIRC, it was set about four or five generations after Leia became empress, with her great grandchildren being horrific despots and the players as rebels trying to put things right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-11992661330316221372010-02-27T06:06:52.695-08:002010-02-27T06:06:52.695-08:00@Barking Alien: While I agree with your overall po...@Barking Alien: While I agree with your overall point, one correction, though: the line you cite does <i>not</i> appear in the theatrical cut (or any cut) of the film, but does appear in the novelization of the film by James Kahn. So Ob-wan and Owen were never brothers in "canon" (whatever that means).Treyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04647628467658839351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-66793296428407960322010-02-27T04:58:14.639-08:002010-02-27T04:58:14.639-08:00the barking alien is corrrect
the prequels were m...the barking alien is corrrect<br /><br />the prequels were more about displaying CGI and selling nifty tuys<br />THEN<br />about plot development/ consistencyClovis Cithoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18208194219083373456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-59972611474306066172010-02-26T19:40:58.703-08:002010-02-26T19:40:58.703-08:00I liked the prequals, but think Lucas really dropp...I liked the prequals, but think Lucas really dropped the ball, in places. In many ways, I prefer Matthew Stover's novelization of Episode III. Anakin's fall is much more believable and instead of a whiny, shallow child, we see a strong, but troubled young man, sick with fear and on the verge of a nervous breakdown, being cunningly and ruthlessly manipulated by his "friend", Palpatine.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192212467523179768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-6898133846694083222010-02-26T19:11:19.392-08:002010-02-26T19:11:19.392-08:00Ah oh...feel a minor rant coming on...
Having see...Ah oh...feel a minor rant coming on...<br /><br />Having seen all the films of the original trilogy an average of 15 or so times before the prequels came out (actually, 24 times for New Hope, 12 times for Empire and about 10 for Jedi to be precise) I was intimately aware that the new stuff had no clue it was supposed to be related to the old stuff.<br /><br />In the original version of Return of the Jedi (not the Special Edition, not the DVD - the theatrical version), Obi-Wan says that he sent Luke to live with his brother...HIS...indicating that in truth Owen Lars is Ben Kenobi's brother.<br /><br />There are a host of these kinds of lines in the first and third films and if Lucas and company had watched the originals half as much as his fan base did, the prequels wouldn't have been so very, very bad.<br /><br />Rant complete.Adam Dicksteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04840144928096089178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-35867243805276498192010-02-26T17:22:34.893-08:002010-02-26T17:22:34.893-08:00Rebellion era all the way. Old (more Ancient) Rep...Rebellion era all the way. Old (more Ancient) Republic also comes in a close second.<br /><br />As for the Clone Wars, I still abide by the info given in Episodes IV - VI, & that which is given in the novelizations of said films (however scant it is). I don't even own the prequel movies. They just didn't do it for me, for all the reasons mentioned by yourself & the others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-90714275781068086032010-02-26T17:05:24.965-08:002010-02-26T17:05:24.965-08:00Yeah, the prequels were a let down overall—and thi...Yeah, the prequels were a let down overall—and this from a person who actually enjoyed most of them. As far as what era I prefer? Well...I love the 'Classic' setting taking place during the Rebellion. I always will...but I'd have to say that the Old Republic era is a close second. As far as gaming in a Clone Wars setting? It just doesn't appeal to me as much. Part of this, I think, is that it is still a 'living' setting, with the Clone Wars cartoons and the like going, you would have to make a decision to either try and keep up with that emerging 'canon' or just make up your own.rologutweinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02186173153359166269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-89570117568748090252010-02-26T16:43:49.560-08:002010-02-26T16:43:49.560-08:00I think it's true of allot of us that the preq...I think it's true of allot of us that the prequel trilogy in our minds was far greater than what we got.JMiskimenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09647067355729300998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-35736739966045904492010-02-26T16:16:46.991-08:002010-02-26T16:16:46.991-08:00Yep, the Clone Wars sounded amazing from the way t...Yep, the Clone Wars sounded amazing from the way the IV-VI people described them. The hunt for the Jedi sounded epic and harrowing. The Empire seemed monolithic and omnipresent.<br /><br />Instead, all of the above happened in the space of about five years and wasn't too exciting at all.<br /><br />I suppose in a way Lucas could not have lived up to twenty-odd years of expectation and speculation; by the time we got the prequels, each of us had already come up with a better story of how it all went down.<br /><br />The thing that really bothers me is how the prequels essentially neuter the Empire; it seemed like a vast and powerful entity at first, but then the prequels reveal that it rose and fell within Luke's lifetime, which is just pathetic.<br /><br />As for my favoured gaming era, it would have to be the Old Republic. That way you can ignore the prequels and not bump into the events of IV-VI. Best of both worlds!thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.com