tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post1017183945627101358..comments2024-03-28T23:33:17.718-07:00Comments on B/X BLACKRAZOR: Some Quick Philosophy Before the Blood-SpillingJBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03263662621289630246noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-52940318472216955592010-10-30T08:54:40.523-07:002010-10-30T08:54:40.523-07:00Your insight on why and how you approach the game ...Your insight on why and how you approach the game is always a pleasure to read.<br /><br />Rules are meant to be bent/broken in a table-top game anyways (i.e. feats, class powers), and I've always tried to keep a game moving and wing a situation, rather than thumb through a book. My first exposure to the game was very different, with lengthy arguments over whether or not a centaur can plow through a room of wall-to-wall gibberlings.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16706477847686010949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-64266142162084632482010-10-29T20:59:38.406-07:002010-10-29T20:59:38.406-07:00@ Pat: Dammit man! You stole my thunder! I complet...@ Pat: Dammit man! You stole my thunder! I completely intended to mention that myself! I knew there was third point I wanted to make!<br /><br />And what Mr.Armstrong says is right on the money...B/X provides player characters (not just DMs) with the tools you need to "flesh out" your spell book (or prayer book) in the form of spell research. Something to put that hard earned gold into (while waiting for Sweet Tito to recover from his latest bout with death).<br />: )JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08532311924539491087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-64375043346271420502010-10-29T20:27:28.218-07:002010-10-29T20:27:28.218-07:00Gentlemen,
May I introduce you to page X51 "S...Gentlemen,<br />May I introduce you to page X51 "Spell Research".<br />You're welcome ;)P_Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12374589162025099763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-36173786052359366072010-10-29T16:45:42.851-07:002010-10-29T16:45:42.851-07:00Absolutely, you should use your Companion rules! ...Absolutely, you should use your Companion rules! What's the fun of writing it if you don't get to use it at the table? It's not like any of us are edition purists or anything.<br /><br />Just to be clear, this being the internet and all, I don't think anyone is whining that they have to have X or Y. Stick to your guns, by all means. But if you want to allow for more options, I'm certainly happy to take them.The Iron Goathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15839364742884404019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-20878021353353055432010-10-29T16:06:34.164-07:002010-10-29T16:06:34.164-07:00@ Fumers and Iron Goat:
Now, now, guys...this is ...@ Fumers and Iron Goat:<br /><br />Now, now, guys...this is something we can talk about at the table if you want (and something we will certainly discuss prior to starting a new campaign). A couple things to consider:<br /><br />1) Your vision of a cleric may be colored by what the class has become more recently. I see the character class as a holy (if crazed) individual...a champion of their deity...a paladin even. You wear armor, you use weapons, you take the battle to the infidel. As a reward for your piety, your deity grants you some boons: actual miracles. But your role is not one of "spell support." Sorry...no flamestrike, Luke.<br /><br />On the other hand, Heron with his 8 strength and +2 mace did more damage in melee than Brian the Halfling with his 8 strength and +1 sword. Something to consider...<br /><br />2) As I pointed out at the beginning, we are running B/X not Labyrinth Lord (whose spell charts are a little too "AD&Dish" for my taste; i.e. "specific to Gary's campaign"). However, I could certainly be swayed to using my own Companion supplement which does flesh out spells a little bit (including Dispel Magic for clerics at 4th level). If you'd like, I can bring an extra copy to next week's game for you folks to use...?<br />; )JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08532311924539491087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-40961179217852410872010-10-29T13:54:26.791-07:002010-10-29T13:54:26.791-07:00@Iron Goat, yup, big time. I'm playing Alster ...@Iron Goat, yup, big time. I'm playing Alster the cleric in Jonathan's game and I've discovered that the BX cleric spell list is very odd. Like there's Snake Charm (which is not a figurative title, it literally just charms snakes) but not Dispel Magic. Create Food is (I shit you not) a 5th level spell.<br /><br />Labyrinth Lord has a nicely fleshed out list but it's not allowed.Fumershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14156302616243889562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-59176138499177053142010-10-29T12:58:36.089-07:002010-10-29T12:58:36.089-07:00I'm on board with the rules-light approach. Th...I'm on board with the rules-light approach. The one thing I AM missing in this B/X game, though, is the spell options. Especially on the cleric list, there are just huge chunks of what I consider "core" spells that just ain't there. The MU list is a little better (12 per level, as opposed to 8) but it's still missing a lot. <br /><br />All that makes sense when viewing B/X as some sort of starter set, but when you're coming at it from the other direction like this, it seems like you'd want to fill out some of those options.The Iron Goathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15839364742884404019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-20825424901722146152010-10-29T11:52:22.676-07:002010-10-29T11:52:22.676-07:00Great post. The greatest epiphany I've had re...Great post. The greatest epiphany I've had recently is that I NEVER ACTUALLY PLAYED 1e or 2e or any actual edition in the past. I don't know whether it was laziness or excitement or my tendency to tinker. Each book, each edition was a menu that I picked stuff off of and cobbled together into some Frankensystem. Everything was houseruled and everything was simplified. Why? Cuz I wanted to PLAY I didn't want to memorize the rule book and I didn't want to be hassled by rules lawyers. :) I'm with you, JB. Any rule that gets in the way of the play is a bad and useless rule.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18158916950442942918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-27801418651430441952010-10-29T11:32:29.859-07:002010-10-29T11:32:29.859-07:00Agreed.. my motivation for using OD&D, Whitebo...Agreed.. my motivation for using OD&D, Whitebox, Labyrinth Lord, Moldvay, etc. isn't nostalgia. My motivation is that I feel they are better game systems than 4e. Or 2e, for that matter.migellitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17106614212764056058noreply@blogger.com