tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post8779805107855046949..comments2024-03-28T00:41:13.514-07:00Comments on B/X BLACKRAZOR: Hot Buttered WritingJBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03263662621289630246noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-36742419135341886842012-01-20T15:45:34.609-08:002012-01-20T15:45:34.609-08:00@Kevin
Totally agree regarding pulling the legit ...@Kevin<br /><br />Totally agree regarding pulling the legit selling of older edition PDFs.<br /><br />Many other RPG publishers don't seem to have problems with such sales either. White Wolf is another big example. They sell lots of old PDFs on RPGNow.Necropraxishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716340801054739658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-33955776882445260632012-01-20T15:32:32.646-08:002012-01-20T15:32:32.646-08:00@Brendan
I was referring to their Intent to donat...@Brendan<br /><br />I was referring to their Intent to donate the monies raised to the Gygax memorial, not generally reselling older editions of books...<br /><br />It's interesting that Catalyst Games have no problem with selling books (including PoD) for older Shadowrun editions...<br /><br />To me, the WotC decision to pull legitimate sales of older editions was a big error of judgement...Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17393603133773088988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-39454473907228173472012-01-20T10:31:42.097-08:002012-01-20T10:31:42.097-08:00I appreciate your thoughts on the matter, and espe...I appreciate your thoughts on the matter, and especially your honesty in considering it from all angles.Fenway5https://www.blogger.com/profile/14870312188585916750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-24272530599985004622012-01-20T10:24:32.525-08:002012-01-20T10:24:32.525-08:00Incidentally, I'm with JB. Please make a hardc...Incidentally, I'm with JB. Please make a hardcover B/X Moldvay/Cook/Marsh available. Print on demand and non-limited would be ideal. Overhead minimal! As much as we in the OSR may like Erol Otus, this simply will not compete with the new and shiny D&D for most customers.Necropraxishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716340801054739658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-54320887660098559162012-01-20T10:21:04.407-08:002012-01-20T10:21:04.407-08:00@Kevin
Now, if they were to sell them and keep th...@Kevin<br /><br /><i>Now, if they were to sell them and keep the money, I'd think it was a bit of a bum deal</i><br /><br />I must admit, I don't understand this line of reasoning at all. WotC is a company, they own this copyright and trademark, why shouldn't they sell the product?<br /><br />I can understand people being frustrated that they would <i>not</i> publish some of their properties (in order to not compete with 4E). But to get angry that they are releasing them? What? And as a <i>bonus</i> they are donating some of the proceeds to charity in order to (presumably) garner goodwill among enthusiasts of older games. Selling these books happens to be both in their best interest of people that want the "real" branded D&D products.<br /><br />Gary et al could have decided to give away their ideas and brand, but they chose to monetize them instead. We need to live with that, good or bad.<br /><br />"Milking nostalgia" is a really negative way of saying providing supply for demand. <i>That's how companies contribute to society.</i> We're not talking about a cartel industry here (though legislation like SOPA might slowly change that), so you can always buy another product or abstain altogether.Necropraxishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716340801054739658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-83963928691220934462012-01-20T06:35:06.525-08:002012-01-20T06:35:06.525-08:00"WHY is WotC doing this exactly? I’m guessing..."WHY is WotC doing this exactly? I’m guessing they want a cash infusion"...am not sure if you've read the announcement, but they're selling them to raise funds for the Gygax Memorial fund...<br /><br />http://gygaxmemorialfund.com/<br /><br />Now, if they were to sell them and keep the money, I'd think it was a bit of a bum deal, but right now, there's no suggestion that's what's happening.<br /><br />Personally, the authors of later editions of D&D aren't known to me, but, to suggest that they didn't try their best to make a good game is a bit unfair, you can criticise Hasbro and WoTC for perhaps not employing the best, or not funding it sufficiently (you'll have to provide evidence that it wasn't funded well, and name names for who you think would have been the "best" to get away with that).<br /><br />I really think that it's harsh on Mearls/Slavicsek etc, they did their best, they did what they thought would be good, but it turned out that a lot of people don't like the taste of 4e...am sure lots of people liked the taste of New Coke, but ultimately, it's regarded as a failure...<br /><br />I'm not a fan of 4e, and I think 3e also lost the plot with complexity...but then, there is a lot of complaint about 2e, and really, it's just a cleanup (in several ways) of 1e, which was a cleanup of OD&D...<br /><br />Think what you'd change, if TSR employed you tomorrow to do D&D 5e, would everybody like those changes, would you get castigated in some quarters? Probably...would that make you a bad person? No...<br /><br /><br />So, at the end of the day, you get to keep the version of the game you like, it's a bit unreasonable to expect any company to continue to support their oldest products (but, equally, I feel it's unreasonable to abandon support AND prevent anybody else supporting your products, but I can't see that actually happening).<br /><br />It's probably best to see versions of D&D as different games, basically incompatible, but with a discernable lineage.<br /><br />WoTC gave us the OGL, which is possibly the biggest thing to happen to RPGs since Gygax & Arneson invented D&D...nothing is ever black and white...Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17393603133773088988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-81833259619300120572012-01-20T03:06:22.821-08:002012-01-20T03:06:22.821-08:00I second that notion...
Regarding Pathfinder'...I second that notion...<br /><br />Regarding Pathfinder's original work/WotC redoing the same: <br />I think there's a lot of baggage that comes with the owning of all the old IP: How can WotC, as a company, rationalize to not use it? Many customers expect them even to re-do the old ones... that's pretty crippling for new creativity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4143435314932633148.post-51581433795029717302012-01-20T02:14:46.223-08:002012-01-20T02:14:46.223-08:00You are allowed to have an opinion, even, yes, a S...You are allowed to have an opinion, even, yes, a STRONG opinion. It's okay, we don't mind. And if anyone does mind, you can tell them to fuck off.Hanley Tuckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13047638048463160737noreply@blogger.com